4proptrader 

This has been by far the worst experience I’ve ever had with a prop trading firm.

I purchased two different challenge accounts with 4Proptrader, and my biggest mistake was ignoring the warnings and reviews I had already seen online. Now I understand exactly what people were talking about.

They blocked two of my payouts, each time finding a different excuse not to pay. Every time I met the requirements, there was suddenly a new issue, a new rule, or some vague justification. It honestly feels like they are just trying to avoid paying traders at all costs.

The support is absolutely terrible — slow, unhelpful, and completely unwilling to provide clear explanations. The website is confusing and poorly designed, and many important rules are either unclear or buried in the terms and conditions.

This firm seems structured in a way that benefits from traders failing rather than succeeding. Instead of supporting traders, they create obstacles.

There are so many better prop firms out there — do yourself a favor and stay away from this one.

Stay away from 4Proptrader. Don’t make the same mistake I did.

This has been my worst experience with this prop trading company. I bought two different challenge accounts from them. My biggest mistake was not paying attention to the comments – I went ahead and got prop accounts from them anyway. The worst support, the worst website I have ever seen. Unfortunately, they have no proper tools at all. I just lost my money. Please pay attention to the comments. These comments are people's real experiences and the money they have lost.

I traded my account from 150,000 to over 173,000 and requested a payout.

Shortly after, my payout was denied due to an alleged breach of the 40% consistency rule. However, no calculation, no data, and no clear explanation were provided.

Before I even received a proper response to my inquiry, the following happened:
• My account was reset
• My entire trading history became inaccessible
• I was simply issued a new 150k account

This raises serious concerns.

I made sure to download my full trade history in advance, and based on my own calculations, I did NOT violate the 40% rule.

The main issue here is not just the payout denial — it’s the complete lack of transparency:
• No evidence
• No calculation
• No opportunity to verify their claim

I joined this firm through recommendations and expected a fair and professional environment. Instead, I am left with more questions than answers.

Traders should be aware of how payout decisions are handled here and make sure to fully understand the risks involved.

Do waste your money with these guys!
- Can't hold overnight, even though CME allows it and most over prop firms do, or automatically close your positions. If you do even by mistake, your BREACHED!
- If you go over the consistency amount, your BREACHED! Unlike all other prop firms where it is a dynamic tool for traders to adjust to.
- Crucial rules are 'hidden' in T'& C's. All other prop firms have the rules easily accessible.
- Another trader shared his experience where he met the rules of payout and was refused. Support would not even explain why! I went through his trades and they were legit. WTF!
There are so many great prop firms out there, that not looking to fleece you for your money. It's obvious these guys are struggling, requiring more failures to support their business model. I thought I would try them, but man, they suck!

Ich habe mein Trading Konto seit !70! Tagen gehabt habe insgesamt über 13000$ ertradet. Die ersten zwei Auszahlungen haben super funktioniert 1x 1020 und 1x 2000$ danach hat es angefangen. Weitere Payouts wurden willkürlich abgelehnt angeblich weil ich die 40% Consistency Rule nicht eingehalten habe was ich aber alles nachweislich habe. 2x wurden weitere Payouts aufgrund dieser Begründung abgelehnt. Um das auch noch zu toppen wurde dann per Email das geschrieben:

"Hi Markus,

We’re reaching out regarding your recent payout request (ID -11529). After review, we want to inform you that it has been rejected at this time due to non-compliance with the 40% consistency rule.

Note that once a payout request is either rejected or approved, all payout conditions must be fully satisfied again before submitting a new request. This includes, but is not limited to:

• Achieve at least four profitable trading days. (These do not need to be consecutive), and
• Full compliance with the 40% consistency rule based on your trading activity.

Each payout request is reviewed independently, and all conditions must be met at the time of submission.

As a result of this outcome, your funded account will be reset. Note that under normal circumstances, a similar outcome results in the permanent deletion of a funded account. However, this reset is being granted as a final opportunity for you to demonstrate consistent, disciplined, and rule-compliant trading behavior.

This decision is not intended to discourage you. Our objective is to ensure fairness, consistency, and discipline across all funded traders. We strongly encourage you to revisit the Funded Trader Rules and familiarize yourself with all payout conditions. This will help avoid similar issues in the future and allow you to approach your next payout request confidently.

Be advised that all decisions made by the Compliance Department are final and irreversible.

We appreciate your understanding and your commitment to disciplined trading.

Best regards,
Compliance Department
4PropTrader"

Komplett lächerlich spart euch eure Zeit und euer Geld und lasst die Finger von 4PropTrader !!!

Ich bin weder sauer weil ich was verloren habe oder sonst was ich habe wirklich !70 Trading Tage! alles gegeben wie gesagt die ersten 2 Payouts haben super funktioniert aber wenn du kontinuierlich erfolgreich bist kriegst du keinen $ mehr.!
Mein Konto 50K Konto mit 59210$ wurden einfach gelöscht und ich habe ein neues mit 0 bekommen. Wirklich Leute spart euch eure Zeit und nehmt euch eine richtige Prop Firma z.B Lucid Trading!

I have had my trading account for 70 days and have traded a total of over $13,000 in profit. The first two payouts worked perfectly — one for $1,020 and one for $2,000. After that, the problems started.

Further payout requests were arbitrarily rejected, supposedly because I did not comply with the 40% consistency rule, which I can clearly prove that I did. Two more payouts were rejected for this same reason.

To make things even worse, I then received the following email:

Completely ridiculous. Save your time and your money and stay away from 4PropTrader!!!

I’m not angry because I lost something or anything like that. I really gave it my all for 70 trading days. As I said, the first two payouts worked perfectly — but once you are consistently successful, you don’t get any more money.

My $50K account with a balance of $59,210 was simply deleted and I was given a new one with $0.

Seriously guys, save your time and go with a real prop firm, for example Lucid Trading!

I struggled at first but the no time limit rule saved me.. I traded slow and steady and finally got funded yesterday.

Of all my prop firm experiences, 4Proptrader was the worst by far! After registration I received an email with my login credentials. The password didn't work. I had to reset my password. First sign of unprofessionalism! When logged in, I only saw 18 out of 40 instruments listed in their FAQs; dxFeed. I wrote an email asking for help and asked a few more questions. I haven't received a reply yet, more than a week has past. Because it was crucial to me to trade commodities, I reached out via live chat. Turns out not all instruments are enabled. Quote: "Note that the CME market is the only market enabled by default. If you need to trade in any other markets, you can contact us anytime." Not even half of the instruments are enabled when you start and that isn't mentioned anywhere. That's just unprofessional and an unneccessary waste of time, to contact support for this! All symbols should be enabled from the beginning.

WEB TRADER
Trading experience via Web Trader wasn't great either. You can only trade from the chart. So if you have multiple open positions and you want to change your stop loss or profit target, you have to change the symbol in the chart to change the SL or TP lines. There is no table where you can see all of your open trades and change them from there. You have to switch your charts to modify from there.

You can undock your chart so that it opens in a new browser window. The software will remember it, which is good. So when you log out and log in again, the Web Trader will ask you, if you want to open that workspace, or when you just navigate through your dashboard and go back to Web Trader. But regardless of what you choose, "Open workspace" or "Cancel", it opens the workspace anyway! So the "Cancel" button doesn't even work. Just annoying.

THE CHALLENGE
I was doing good on my challenge, but I failed because of a rule, that isn't clarified enough. I had a PENDING ORDER after 3:15 p.m. Chicago Time, that wasn't even filled. But that pending order broke the rules, even though the FAQ only state: "It is prohibited to open any new positions between 3:15 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. Chicago Time." The wording is "any new positions". I didn't even have an open position, it was a pending order, that COULD lead to a position, but it didn't! I placed it intentionally, so that when the market opens again at 5:00 p.m. I get filled if the price jumps. But instead I had to read the word "FAILED".

ACOUNT DELETION
Now that I'm finally done with 4Proptrader, I went to the settings menu and clicked "DELETE ACCOUNT", but the button doesn't even work !!! I had to contact support again and still waiting for an answer.

CONCLUSION
They can't even get the basics right, have terrible email support, don't provide the full amount of instruments/symbols by default – only when reaching out to their support –, they screw your challege by vague formulations in their FAQ and on top of all, they force you to bond with them by having a non-functional "DELETE ACCOUNT" button!!!

At least I only paid $35 on Black Friday, but even a single Cent is too much!

WORST EXPERIENCE in my prop trader life!

Honestly, signing up with 4PropTrader was way easier than i expected. It only took a couple of minutes, and i even got a really good discount. On top of that, they give you free trading software and the live chat support answers fast whenever you need help. No complaints at all so far.

I passed the 10K CFD challenge but didn’t feel like there was much flexibility with account scaling. I still got my $500 payout from my funded account but may look elsewhere for longterm.

4PropTrader Review – Mixed Experience
I’ve tested 4PropTrader multiple times, both in the Futures and CFD sections of their platform.

Futures Trading – Solid Foundation
The Futures platform runs smoothly. Price feeds and order execution were reliable, and I had no technical issues. I didn’t pass the challenge, so I can't comment on payout processing, but the infrastructure itself seems solid.

CFD Trading – Major Issues
The web-based CFD platform is, in my view, not suitable for active trading.

You can't see your open positions on the chart.
Stop Loss and Take Profit orders are not displayed or managed effectively.
The whole experience is clunky and unintuitive.
Huge Fees – Completely Unjustified
This is where things get frustrating: CFD trading fees are absurdly high, roughly eight times more than what you'd pay with other prop firms.
I traded a $250,000 account up to $255,000 over three weeks – and ended up paying over $22,000 in fees.
With any other provider, I would’ve passed the challenge. Here, the fees alone made that impossible.
After three weeks of intense trading and over 120 transactions, I simply gave up. The fee structure made it clear that continuing would be a waste of time. I value my time too much to keep pushing against such unfavorable conditions.

Overnight & Weekend Positions – A Limited Plus
You’re allowed to hold positions overnight and on weekends, apparently without swap fees – which is nice in theory.
However, massive slippage on entries often cancels out that benefit.
Short-term trading makes little sense here. Maybe swing traders who hold for weeks or months can make it work.

Drawdown Rules – Poor Transparency
A critical issue: the drawdown is not static. Although the rules suggest you get $15,000 in max drawdown, the EOD (end-of-day) trailing drawdown kicks in way earlier.
In practice, accounts often get terminated after just $10,000 in drawdown – not clearly communicated.

Support – There, But Not Helpful
Support is available and responds fairly quickly – but unfortunately offers very little real help when it comes to technical issues or platform concerns. Answers are vague and rarely solve the problem.

Conclusion
For beginners or short-term traders, I cannot recommend 4PropTrader’s CFD offering. The fee structure alone will eat into any gains you make.
Their Futures side is much better technically and may be worth exploring.
However, due to excessive CFD fees, unclear rules around drawdown, and a poor trading interface, I’m giving 3 out of 5 stars overall.

Extremly high commission!!!

hoy quiero hablarles de esta compañía 4proptrader tengan muchísimo cuidado pues aunque al principio parezca que no tienen muchas reglas y son bastante serios nada más lejos de la realidad. primero ya han cambiado las reglas como poner las consistencia pero no han dado nada a cambio. la data feed es la peor del mercado uno se responsabilizan de los errores, tengo varios vídeos donde se puede ver como no se cierran las operaciones y no se puede mover ni el target ni el stop. repito no son de fiar, en cuanto hablas con ellos se limita. a decir que es un problema de plataforma y que no se hacen responsables pero esto no es verdad pues con otras compañías no tenia ese problema de no poder mover las ordenes. no merece la Per trabajar con esta empresa cualquier cosa dejare mi correo para ayudar
Today I want to talk to you about this company 4proptrader, be very careful because even though at first it seems that they don't have many rules and they are quite serious, nothing could be further from the truth. First, they have already changed the rules, such as setting the consistency, but they have not given anything in return. The data feed is the worst on the market. You take responsibility for the errors. I have several videos where you can see how the operations are not closed and you can't move the target or the stop. I repeat, they are not trustworthy, as soon as you talk to them, they limit themselves to saying that it is a platform problem and that they are not responsible, but this is not true because with other companies I did not have this problem of not being able to move the orders. It is not worth the effort to work with this company. If you have any questions, I will leave my email to help.